SportboatSemi-displacementSportboat

F & F 65

F&F Boats · Jac de Ridder · 1992

Updated

The F & F 65 is a 6.50 m semi-displacement racing yacht designed by Jac de Ridder and built by F&F Boats, first launched in 1992. It races in Sportboat.

F & F 65 - Jac de Ridder - F&F BoatsP 7.95 mLOA 6.50 m

Length

6.50 m

21′ 4″

Beam

2.51 m

Draft

1.24 m

Displacement

0.9 t

Sail area

27 m²

This design does not carry a Race Edge. The speeds below still come from measured boats.

On the podium

Where a F & F 65 finishes when she goes racing.

0

Wins

1

Seconds

1

Thirds

2

Starts

Not enough races yet for a percentage — these are the counts so far. We keep collecting results, so this will fill in.

Read from 2 starts by 2 boats between 2019, counting races with six boats or more.

Recent regattas

The latest events where a F & F 65 was on the start line, named as the organisers publish them.

  • Netherlands50 Mijl Doublehanded2019

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Round the buoys, or offshore

A short windward-leeward and a night at sea ask different things of a boat. Here is how this one does in each.

Round the buoys

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Not enough data yet: no races of 10 NM or less carry a published distance.

Offshore & coastal

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Not enough data yet: no races over 10 NM carry a published distance.

Who she races against

The designs a F & F 65 actually lines up with, most often first. The bar shows how those meetings ended.

Met too few times for a figure:

J/122 (4 meetings), Corby 36 (2 meetings), J/120 (2 meetings), J/111 (2 meetings)

Speed at every angle

The shape of this design's speed, drawn from the measured fleet. Pick a wind and watch it stretch.

36930°60°90°120°150°WIND8.9

Upwind VMG

4.14

42°

Beam reach

7.36

90°

Broad reach

8.55

135°

Downwind VMG

6.83

170°

Speed in knots at 20 knots of true wind. Green marks the angles that pay: the closest useful beat and the deepest run worth sailing.

Where it wins and where it pays

Every boat is judged against its own measurements — length, weight, sail area. The quicker those say it should be, the more it has to deliver just to break even. Going fast is not enough: it has to go faster than its own numbers promised.

It needs pressure to show what it can do. On a windy coastal course it is in its element; on a light-air windward-leeward it has to be sailed well to hold on.

Where it gains

Its best ground is on a broad reach when it blows, where it outruns what it looks like on paper, and by a margin worth having. It holds that advantage on the run as well, so the gain is not down to one leg of the course.

Where it pays

It falls short to windward once it pipes up, giving away time it never gets back. That is a hull that will lift and run given enough breeze.

Above the line it delivers more than promised and gains on the fleet. Below, it falls short. Move the wind: plenty of boats sit on one side in the light and the other when it blows.

True wind
Upwind+0.10 kn
Beam reach+0.05 kn
Broad reach-0.06 kn
Downwind-0.04 kn

Full width is 1.2 kn either way.

At 10 knots this design makes back more than its rating asks on the upwind.

How fast is a F & F 65

Boat speed in knots, by true wind angle and wind strength.

Angle6 kn10 kn14 kn20 kn
Beat VMG2.813.824.224.14
52°4.295.535.986.07
60°4.525.696.186.37
75°4.655.826.436.89
90°4.616.006.607.36
110°4.656.046.988.14
120°4.485.936.898.94
135°3.935.676.588.55
150°3.405.176.197.67
Run VMG2.954.525.696.83

How they are set up

The range each sail spans across the fleet.

Mainsail14 m²
Headsail9 m² – 14 m²
Spinnaker30 m² – 31 m²

Most run a fixed propeller. Crew weight is declared around 320 kg.

Rigging

F & F 65 rig and sail dimensions

A F & F 65 carries 7.95 m of mainsail hoist on a 2.83 m boom, a forestay 7.17 m above the deck. Typical figures across the 3 boats measured under the current VPP, with the range each one spans.

Rig

Mainsail hoistP7.95 m7.95 – 7.95
Boom lengthE2.83 m2.80 – 2.83
Forestay heightIG7.17 m7.17 – 7.17
Fore triangle baseJ2.38 m2.38 – 2.42
Spinnaker hoistISP7.48 m7.48 – 7.48
Boom above deckBAS0.89 m0.89 – 0.89

Sails

Mainsail13.6 m²13.5 – 13.7
Headsail13.6 m²8.9 – 14.2
Spinnaker31.3 m²30.0 – 31.4